Steinbrenner’s influential nephew likely to put brakes on big Yankees revamp
- October 14, 2023
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Follow UsHal Steinbrenner has adopted a somewhat mysterious stance when discussing the Yankees’ plans for overhauling before the upcoming offseason. This indicates his reluctance to enforce any major changes that Yankees fans want to see. To make things more difficult, he may not be willing to override his influential nephew, who backs Cashman and the analytics group.
During a conference on Wednesday, he opted for a rather vague approach. While the Yankees owner admitted to have identified areas for improvement, he mentioned the intent to implement some modifications and emphasized that certain changes may be less conspicuous than others, yet we have certainly identified areas for improvement. When addressing potential reorganization, Steinbrenner alluded to potential adjustments in personnel, although not exclusively personnel changes.
The Yankees manager partner threw everything behind the cloak of ambiguity. Steinbrenner chose not to reply to an email seeking further clarification. On the other hand, Brian Cashman, when contacted by the post, declined to comment on the Yankees’ course of action at this time. This is only giving rise to uncertainty over the promise of Yankees changes that was given a miss by Steinbrenner for years.
Steinbrenner is unlikely to overrule his nephew
There seems to be a sense of dissatisfaction regarding how decisions are made across different aspects of the team and who wields the most influence in these matters. Brian Cashman has consistently asserted that he values input from all areas of the organization, including what is thought to be the largest professional scouting department in Major League Baseball.
However, a prevailing external perception has emerged, suggesting that Cashman strongly aligns with his analytical team, with the head of that faction, assistant GM Mike Fishman, wielding significant influence. Steinbrenner also alluded to the involvement of his eldest nephew, Steve Swindal Jr., in playing a substantial role in many of the decisions made by the organization. Notably, Swindal has a strong association with the analytical group.
Steinbrenner is already facing resistance as he stands firm on retaining Cashman despite vocal opposition from some of the team’s most passionate fans. It appears that Aaron Boone will also be retained, based on current indications.
The fear of Steinbrenner avoiding major Yankees changes
Steinbrenner is a master in the art of ambiguity, much like his father was known for his outspokenness and bold and grandiose public actions. He possesses a more reserved demeanor, which is another way of saying he differs significantly from his father. This distinction has become apparent to anyone who has observed his leadership of the Yankees over the past 15 years.
His preference to avoid media glare and discuss team affairs openly allows him to renegade his promises in a subtle manner. Steinbrenner is reluctant to terminate employees, it appears that he may be inclined to make minor adjustments rather than major overhauls.
The Yankees managing partner recently highlighted several areas, including clubhouse culture, which were examined during meetings held in Tampa by the organization’s top 15 baseball officials. This resonated with fans because it is understood that some players had concerns about the access certain team employees had to the clubhouse, the information shared with them, and how it was communicated.
Fans are aware that Steinbrenner values Aaron Judge‘s input, and it’s no secret that Judge had his share of grievances during the Yankees’ 2023 season. They feel it safe to assume that Judge would have conveyed all these to Steinbrenner. However, his hint at tensions and disagreements in the Yankees’ Tampa brainstorming made it clear that not everyone within the organization shares the same views and opinions.
This provides an unpretentious indication that not all are agreeing to changes that Yankees fans expect and the owners may not be eager to force their decisions on them. Steinbrenner doesn’t have the appetite to face a more delicate situation within the organization following a significant overhaul.
At best, Steinbrenner’s promised change will involve making changes like letting go of a coach or two, altering the leadership structure in areas such as the international department, and establishing a weekly meeting with experienced baseball personnel like Omar Minaya and Brian Sabean to ensure that the team maintains a balanced approach between analytics and traditional baseball wisdom. This could serve as a response to a season that saw the Yankees finish with an 82-80 record, an underperforming offense reminiscent of the 1968 season, ongoing issues with injuries, and a series of questionable transactions.
Such a change is likely to betray the expectations of Yankees fans and players.
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43 thoughts on “Steinbrenner’s influential nephew likely to put brakes on big Yankees revamp”
As long as profits are more important than pinstripes, known as Profits Over Pinstripes (POP), this team will watch October games on big screen TVs. This management team cares nothing about the greatness of what the Yankee legend means. They are nothing but blood suckers who prey on the faithful Yankee fans who truly love the team. Year after year they wait and year after year they are disappointed. Unless this management team changes, it will be profits over pinstripes (POP).
Exactly! Steinbrenner’s goal is to make the team competitive enough to keep fans interested and hopeful. He thinks spending lots of money on players gives fans the illusion that he actually wants to win. The spending stops when he reaches the point of diminishing returns.
I kept saying, the Steinbrenner “family” is destroying the dynasty (or shall I say, “old” dynasty). The family does NOT have a baseball mind among them. Baby Boss runs the organization like a dying family business. It will not hurt Hal, but those family members who follow will be hurt. Yankee fans will quickly lose interest, just like they did before the “Real” Boss took control. George knew he had to bring back a dynasty type team. It only took him 3 years to get it done. Then had a baseball brain, like Gene “Stick” Micheals to develop the next Gen Dynasty featuring the core “5” ( I always include Bernie as the older lost brother). If the nephew has that much power, let Hal hand it over to fail even more.
If they don’t get rid of Boone nothing will change.They definitely won’t reach the WORLD SERIES.Keep him and you will see what I mean.
i agree boone needs to go but he is owed a million dollars, righthal won’t eat that kinda money
There are bigger issues than Boone. There fact that no team is willing to do an honest trade with Cashman should be more than enough reason to fire him before there is even a thought of firing Boone. Hal only caring about how much profit he is raking in is the second far bigger issue. This team will never actually compete for a World series until he sells the team to someone who values winning as much as his father did.
Hal is the Moe of the 3 Stooges the other 2 are Useless Cash(less)man as Larry and Boone is Curly. There is only ONE correct move. Hal must own up that he is a Pathetic joke, A Pissd Poor excuse in his dad’s memory and he MUST sell the Yankees out right and at the same time Fire Useless Cash(less)man and Boone along with the entire pathetic analytical team and his staff in the minors – after all that is where the players are coming from and if all they can do is hit a fast ball they are NOT ready for the majors nor is their upcut swing.
as long as he believes the real problem was health, i don’t expect to see a change. he will run back the same type of team and try to prove his point.
I agree. But it won’t be the same type it will be the same personnel with no change
STOP WITH THE ANALYTICS!!!! That is DESTROYING baseball!!! HAL!!! YOU’RE THE BOSS!!! NOT YOUR NEPHEWS!! Get some CONFIDENCE IN YOURSELF!!! MAKE YOUR DAD PROUD
that YOU’RE making decisions ON YOUR OWN!! YOUR fans would back you 100%!! Trust good old fashioned baseball!! That’s how we won 27 W.S.
NOT ANALYTICS!!! DO IT! BE A MAN!!
The Yankees are in trouble with Cashman and Hal Steinbrenner and nephews. They are only looking at how fat their wallets will get. By raising the prices on the season seats and tickets holders. Then lie about wanting to win a World Series. The World Series that we won Derek Jeter and core was set . Before Hal Steinbrenner and Cashman had anything to do with Jeter and Core. Since 2010 what have Hal Steinbrenner and Cashman done for us lately nothing but broken promise and lies.
I agree. But it won’t be the same type it will be the same personnel with no change
Status quoe…nothing is going to change..tell that stupid nephew to take a hike, if he loves cashman so much he can have him and they both leave!! Problem is steinbrenner takes orders he don’t give them. You got horse (or horses as*) people trying to run a legendary baseball franchise and they care nothing about winning. All about the $$$….it sux that the management is so out of tune with it’s own fan base. Another long season followed by more after that incoming 🤬🤬🤬
Think 🤔 about it since Jeter, Andy P. Mo and Posada have Retired. WE haven’t been back to the World Series. Since Hal Steinbrenner taken over it’s embarrassing and Cashman is the worst G.M. ever. An next season around this time Hal Steinbrenner and Cashman will be saying the same thing. An over the last 7 years Cashman has gotten worse with trades. 15 years without appearing in a World Series Sorry Boss.
At this point, mgmt isn’t much better than CBS who sold the team to George in 72.
No hope for a World Series in 24 until significant changes are made. Hal should build a future around Judge and Cole. Hal never should of let Castillo go to Seattle! The definition of insanity is doing the same thing and expecting different results! Sure Volpe is a great kid that will eventually mature into a productive player but by that time Cole will be gone and the end of any chance to win a title. You can never have enough QUALITY pitching as it’s a long season. The truth will come out as far as what commitment Hal is willing to make ith the moves made during the off-season. The team was tough to watch this season. Where is the pinstripe pride? It starts at the top. If things don’t change I be a former fan.
Hal, has no backbone. If he thinks that team Cashman/Boone will lead them to a champions, he’s dreaming. And this dream isn’t coming thru. He needs to channel a little of his father and spend to get some support for Judge. And must of all, Fire Boone and hire a manager who will buck analytics and go with his gut. You need a good baseball man, which Boone isn’t. Also he needs to think about moving Cashman out of the GM position and move him into a more administrative position. If he wants to continue with his current set up, we’re in for another loooooong season and disappointment.
Analytics has greatly diminished the Yankees. It still boils down to see the ball hit the ball. For example Stanton would really improve his hitting if he would take less pitches and hit more often before getting two strikes. Also using a lighter bat would enable him to get to fastballs. Also a more conventional stance closer to home plate and he will hit 50 points higher.
This article is trash. Very inaccurate as Swindel is not Hal’a nephew
He is George’s son in law which would make him Hal’s brother in law. The fact that the headline about the relationship is wrong diaqualifies anything else in the article.
Jr. His ex-brother-in-laws son.
A brother in law’s son is a nephew.
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Maybe the first change should be to unload his nephew. I don’t know if Hal has noticed but under his nephews guidance he isn’t in the playoffs, and he hasn’t won a World Series since the opening of the new stadium. And this past season was an embarrassment and to add insult to injury, they raise the ticket prices. But I guess when you’re not getting playoff money you have no other option. But what’s worse is they are not treating the fans as if they have any baseball IQ
Talk about a comedy of errors !
I’ve read many of the responses about how Hal, Cashman, Boone and his nephew are going to continue with analytics. Yankee fans need to get a backbone and stop buying tickets to the games. Hurt Hal in his pocket.
The least of the money the Stienbreners make are from paid attendance. This is why there is no sense of urgency. The TV deals and all the wonderful adds all over the outfield walls and behind home plate is their biggest source of income. We buy hats with the yankees interlocking NY on it. Why, they don’t care about us just the money from that hat and everything else
I normally don’t comment on other peoples comments but you can read nearly all of them any they plead with ridding Boone and Cashman. Now I get it that we need to make money but the name Yankees means a lot. Look at the hair beards mustaches on other teams. The Yankees need an overhaul
Hello I think cash has got to be moved he has made to many raw deals for a ream with a great history come on Hal push back Boone can’t get the job done it’s the Yankees turn but only if you want it bad enough make the change……
The bottom line is the whole front office is to blame. Let’s start with Hal, no real intelligence, he relies on people who have lost the ability to think, only cares about profits over tradition. He’s a total disgrace as an owner, who cares about some unheard of nephew. Cashman is next, he has become useless as a GM, every other GM has and will take advantage of him. Just look at the last 10 years or so of his trades and signings. GENE MICHAEL started the team on their winning ways and is 100% better than Cashman. Should be fired immediately. Lastly is Boone, who can’t be fully blamed, but really is a horrible manager who make the worst decisions game after game. He’s merely a puppet who should have never been hired. Boone is loved by Hal because they are similar in the fact that they have no backbone.
To summarize everything, Hal should fire every on who’s worthless or sell the team to someone who cares about tradition and winning , not just profits.
HAL BE SMART. FORGET YOUR NEPHEW. FORGET CASHMAN. AND CERTAINLY BOONE. PLEASE GROW A PAIR AND HIRE A PRESIDENT OF BASEBALL OPERATIONS TO RUN THINGS. YOU ARE A SMART GUY BUT FORGET THE BASEBBALL SIDE. THE PERSON YOU HIRE THEN WILL HIRE A GM AND.MANGER.GUESS WHAT YOUR PRESIFENT IS AN EX GREAT YANKEE. DEREK JETER. HE HAS THE EXPERIENCE AND KNOWS THE GAME. LET HIM RUN THINGS. HE WILL FIRE CASHMAN AND CERTAINLY BOONE. BOONR IS THE WORST MANAGER IN THE HISTORY OF THE GAME.BRING BACK JETER NOW TODAY. SIT BACK AND JUST LEARN THE GAME THANK YOU.
Division rivals Baltimore, Tampa and Toronto all made the 2023 tournament. The Yankees won as many tournament games as those three combined: zero. ZERO.
I don’t think the Yankees should have team payroll exceed the cap. Top salaries now in millions: Judge $40 + Cole $36 + Stanton $32 = $108. That leaves very little room to maneuver.
Analytics are not the problem. Complaining about analytics is dumb. Boone is not the problem. Cashman is the problem. Even as general manager he has been mediocre at best. Cashman since 2000 has gotten the Yankees into the World Series once.
Cashman has the a current failure streak of 13 years and counting.
The long term solution: Stein family sells the Yankees to _____. Ah, if only I knew.
Jeter was a great player, but look what he did with the Marlins. as soon as he left they got better.
WOW , IT’S A PLEASURE TO SEE HOW MANY “HARDCORE YANKEE FANS” ARE FINALLY RESPONDING ON THE IGNORANCE AND FILTHY GREED OF THE YANKEE EMPIRE !!!.
I WAS FEELING LIKE I WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO HAD ENOUGH GUTS TO EXPOSE ” THOSE GREEDY , IGNORANT VULTURES IN THE FRONT OFFICE OF “THE YANKEE EMPIRE”. ITS ALL GONE . BUT ,
IT’S AN HONOR TO FINALLY SEE HARDCORE YANKEE FANS EXPRESSING THEIR ANGER 😡😡😡.
LET GET TO IT ..SHALL WE…
1). BRIAN CASHMAN : IS THE MAIN “VIRUS” IN THE “YANKEE EMPIRE” !!!. HE’S A SLIMY , CROSS-EYED DIRTBAG WHO HAS RUINED THE “YANKEE REPUTATION”. ITS SHOWS THAT HE CONTROLS HAL !!!.
CASHMAN AND HIS PEOPLE WILL EVENTUALLY OWN THE YANKEES . THAT’S WAT THEY DO !!!. THEY OWN HAL “GUTLESS” STEINBRENNER !!!. “THE YANKEE EMPIRE”IS A MULTI- BILLION 💰 $$$ ORGANIZATION BUILT BY THE GREAT GEORGE “THE BOSS” STEINBRENNER .
AND NOW THEY WANT IT !!!. CASHMAN AND HIS PEOPLE ARE A BUNCH OF SLIMY MAGGOT EATING VULTURES !!!. THEIR ULTIMATUM.. IS TO TAKE OVER ALL BIG BUSINESSES “THE YANKEE EMPIRE”!!!. THAT’S WAT THEY DO !!!. LOOK WATS GOING ON IN THE WHITE HOUSE…SAME SHIT!!! BUT WORST !!!!!!!.
ITS ALL ABOUT POWER AND $$$. AND CASHMAN HASN’T BEEN FIRED . WAT DOES THAT TELL US ???.
CASHMAN DISRESPECTED” THE HARDCORE YANKEE FANS”.
REMEMBER,… HE HAD SOME FANS EJECTED FROM THE STADIUM BECAUSE OF “FIRE CASHMAN SIGNS”☢️☢️☢️ !!!. POOR BABY VULTURE.. TRUTH HURTS BITCH !!!.
2). RANDY LEVINE : YANKEE PRESIDENT MY ASS !!!. HE’S ANOTHER SLIMY, MAGGOT EATING VULTURE !!! . HE’S JUST GOING ALONG FOR THE RIDE TO RIP THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE STEINBRENNER FAMILIES FEET !!!.
LEVINE AND CASHMAN ARE A DUO FOR THEIR PEOPLE !!!. HE’S DONE NOTHING TO HELP IN ANYWAY FOR” THE YANKEE EMPIRE !!!. SHOWS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR “THE FANS” OR “THE YANKEE EMPIRE”.!!!. YANK- ME PRESIDENT !!!. 😂 😂 😂. MY ASS !!!!!.
LAST BUT NOT LEAST…. DRUM ROLL 🥁🥁🥁
3). HAL STEINBRENNER : 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. 💩 💩 💩💩💩 💩 💩 💩
ENOUGH SAID 😡 !!!.
GOD BLESS AMERICA 🙏 !!!.
If anybody thinks keeping Cashman is good for the Yanks you have missed the last 10 seasons. If the George was still there he would have fired him 10 years ago. Enough said.
Wow, who can fault Cashman for the diabolical he saved us with. Montgomery. We could of had more in the win column if not for trading him for a player that was traded before the season even ended. Who can fault that brilliant mind! Getting us a hitter like Stanton who we’re stuck with till the 2nd coming of Christ, who needs to start his swing a day early to catch up to a fastball. Who runs the bases like my grandma. Who can let a whole bunch of hits fall in the outfield unless they’re hit right at him. How can you question that brilliance. Now we have Rodon. No one knows what he’s going to do this coming season. Yeah, just glad we got rid of that Montgomery character to stop the winning. PHEW, that was a close one.
Finally people are starting to get it. They do just enough to string people along and make them think they can win without ever having to do what will actually make them win. And I don’t mean overpaying for the downside of free agents. How quick some are to blame Cash and Boone. How do you know they aren’t doing exactly what they’re told by the money grabbers – Levine, Trost, and Swindal. How in creation can the analytics zealots suggest their plan works?? It clearly hasn’t in the last 10+ seasons! The rot is at the top and if Hal isn’t on board with it, he’s certainly too weak to stop it.
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come on Steinbrenner, if you can’t handle the job, give it to your sister… your father, may not have always been the most popular man in the room. People may not have always agreed with his decisions, but he built a dynasty based not on people pleasing based on a backbone , tenacity , no BS policy ..Yankees are raking in money, hand over fist, while the legacy of your father is becoming something that your children’s generation will not remember. It will be in the history books.. thought nearly impossible not to make the playoffs this year. The Yankees made it possible… what is going on with these injuries what is going on with the coaching? i’m not even sure the analytics team I think you rely too much on that. Baseball game of chance .. I want to say get rid of Cashman, I would give them one more chance. This is not rest at Boone’s feet. I think he’s glorified PR for the Yankee’s. Gene Michael was not only largely responsible for the success of the Yankees organization, but also had a six cents on analytics on scouting on player potential. We need to get back to alt School yankee baseball, grow a backbone and do what your father would do the last time we won a World Series was in 2009!! your father unfortunately passed away. May he rest in peace in 2010, And although he may have been less involved with the team, on a day-to-day basis, I guarantee you most decisions were run by George. Hal what do you want your legacy be? Right now your legacy is all about money. I’m a loyal Yankee fan to the core. It’s one of the only sports I watch faithfully. .. .. I’m pretty sure a Cashman would not have this job if your father was alive, but if you wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, go ahead and do it but don’t sit there and also argue with your nephews. I thought you were the number one. If you can’t handle the job step down, handed over to your sister she has bigger balls than you do. I’m not saying that in a negative way you can’t always be nice championships or not one being nice. legacies are not made being nice.
come on Steinbrenner, if you can’t handle the job, give it to your sister… your father, may not have always been the most popular man in the room. People may not have always agreed with his decisions, but he built a dynasty based not on people pleasing based on a backbone , tenacity , no BS policy ..Yankees are raking in money, hand over fist, while the legacy of your father is becoming something that your children’s generation will not remember. It will be in the history books.. thought nearly impossible not to make the playoffs this year. The Yankees made it possible… what is going on with these injuries what is going on with the coaching? i’m not even sure the analytics team I think you rely too much on that. Baseball game of chance .. I want to say get rid of Cashman, I would give them one more chance. This is not rest at Boone’s feet. I think he’s glorified PR for the Yankee’s. Gene Michael was not only largely responsible for the success of the Yankees organization, but also had a six cents on analytics on scouting on player potential. We need to get back to alt School yankee baseball, grow a backbone and do what your father would do the last time we won a World Series was in 2009!! your father unfortunately passed away. May he rest in peace in 2010, And although he may have been less involved with the team, on a day-to-day basis, I guarantee you most decisions were run by George. Hal what do you want your legacy be? Right now your legacy is all about money. I’m a loyal Yankee fan to the core. It’s one of the only sports I watch faithfully. .. .. I’m pretty sure a Cashman would not have this job if your father was alive, but if you wanna give him the benefit of the doubt, go ahead and do it but don’t sit there and also argue with your nephews. I thought you were the number one. If you can’t handle the job step down, handed over to your sister she has bigger balls than you do. I’m not saying that in a negative way you can’t always be nice championships or not one being nice. legacies are not made being nice.
Cashman has made some horrible trades/acquisitions and gave away too much on many occasions, he’s the biggest reason the Yankees are in the mess they’re in. Steinbrenner has an obligation to maintain the Yankees dynasty as the winningest team in professional sports at all costs! The Yankees fan base will ensure the profits keep coming in no matter how much they spend to build a team! They owe it to the fans who spend ridiculous amounts of money at the stadium and on merchandise, the Yankees will never be in the red, ever! Fire Cashman & Baboon and rein in the analytic department and get someone who has a feel for the game and doesn’t operate purely on numbers!
Simply put, as long as Hal owns the team, they’ll never win again. Swindle is not a baseball guy. He’s a money grabbing family member that only cares about his horses in Florida. Cashman is a loser. Done nothing on his own. Him and his analytics group, including Swindel don’t give a damn about the fans. It’s all about putting money in their pockets.